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Then, uphold the 2nd ammendment for all of those who still choose to try to take from others and the problems will work themselves out. Much cheaper too than supporting a govt. program and all its related employees, buildings, etc.

***What a joke! How do you think rich people got rich? They got rich taking from others(greed). As an example, a rich man, or business owner, buys a product for a dollar (wholesale), and then turns around and sells it to the consumer for
$20.00(retail). After overhead ($5.00), the profit margin is enormous.

And we all pay to send his children to college, at the expense of our own children.

So, the rich man gets richer, “taking from others,” as you state. To my mind, this is tantamount to stealing, and an abomination in the eyes of God.

I think the wealthiest among us, who take social security checks, when they don’t need the money, or can afford to sustain themselves without it, should be ashamed of themselves.

Further, speaking on the subject of money, and profit, when is enough, enough?

You act as if this could never happen because rich people won’t allow this socialism. But the government certainly forces rich people to pay taxes every year that they will never receive back– income tax is only the best example, estate taxes sometimes the most devastating, the capital gains tax and others. I don’t see many people objecting to those taxes even though they obviously “discriminate” against rich people who will never get a check in the mail with that money back. Why would getting rid of Social Security for the rich be any different? The estate tax would be much more of a hard pill to swallow for an older person, and we have that going up to 55% in 2011.

I think getting rid of the system would be best in the long run, but I don’t see why the current system takes money out of my paycheck to pay to Warren Buffett and George Soros when I’m sure they’re doing fine anyway (yes, it’s true, Buffett has actually publicly stated he receives SS every month and always cashes the check).

First, if given the choice, I guarantee most rich people would agree to not receive any SS ever if they did not have to pay into it. That is the only correct way your plan could take place.

You cannot force someone to pay into something because you see them as “rich and evil” and then tell them they will never see this money again. That is socialist, and simply morally wrong.

The law of unintended consequences escapes you I see. So you have established that SS is a failed system, which I agree with (although for clearly different reasons), then what do you think would happen if all the “evil rich” stopped paying into it because they will no longer be receiving anything out of it?

The system would collapse even more quickly than it already is and all those you are trying to help will be SOL.

Now, those you want to help no longer have that extra income from SS, what do you do?

I agree SS is bad, but I think it should simply be eliminated. Give everyone who payed into it their money back, stop collecting payments for it, and let it go away (along with all other socialist programs in this country).

Promote conservative (in the true definition of the word, no political affiliation) fiscal choices and promote saving and preparing for the future. Let people do this on their own through hard work, and you will have a much better society and a much better economy.

Then, uphold the 2nd ammendment for all of those who still choose to try to take from others and the problems will work themselves out. Much cheaper too than supporting a govt. program and all its related employees, buildings, etc.

I also believe everyone should be made to write out a monthly check paying their “bill” to the government just as they pay the cable company or any other bill. It would really hit home to them that they are giving the government so much of their wealth.

If it was not a scam, it would have been designed just like food-stamps: with payouts to the poor, and coming out of general tax-funds. Instead, the intellectuals who designed it wanted people to think it was a scheme where their money would go a a fund, and they would get paid out from that fund.

Until the government talks about social security in honest terms, we’re not going to get anywhere. The SS contributions should be called income taxes, the employer’s share should be made visible, the government should stop pretending there is a fund somewhere, they should stop pretending to pay interest into this fictitious fund. Once there is honesty in terms and conversation, there may be a little more hope to figure out where to go next.

The government has no legitimate role providing retirement income and security. The system should be wound down. Still, we’ve got to bring honesty to the discussion first.